[J Schiz]

Looks like they are using the Hellcat 6.2 block, so your argument fails, and mine is correct lol

rostr what law is there against a 6.2 block in a scatpak can you color in linez?

 

[Roostking]

rostr what law is there against a 6.2 block in a scatpak can you color in linez?

Bcuz u axed y they didnt start wit a scat pack, cuz itz cheaper. Well, da scatpack cums wit a 6.4 block from da factry and itz not able 2 handle boost vry well, where da 6.2 iz.

 

[345]

Bring on the twins.... lets see what they will do.

 

[LaserDoc]

Bring on the twins.... lets see what they will do.

Demon Performance is methodically working through the steps for the twins. The upgraded driveline is ordered and measurements are being double checked for the new manifold system.

 

[LaserDoc]

Bring on the twins.... lets see what they will do.

Actually, what I think they will do, is put an ass whoopin some of the big guns at the 1/2 mile races, lol!

 

[DemonSkip]

Bring on the twins.... lets see what they will do.

A pair of Precision Gen2 6870s should fair nicely with Doc's HC. We're about 50% of the way through the design/r&d of the kit currently and waiting for some out side sources to wrap up some critical pieces that we need to continue on with the rest.

Demon Performance is methodically working through the steps for the twins. The upgraded driveline is ordered and measurements are being double checked for the new manifold system.

Actually, what I think they will do, is put an ass whoopin some of the big guns at the 1/2 mile races, lol!

Can't wait! She's going to be one violent kitty when we're through with her. Thank goodness we have the right team of people backing us up on this one.

 

[upnorthstar]

Skip...how much boost could/would you run on with TT's on the stock HC motor? How much TT boost could/would you run on your HC stroker? Thanks

 

[DemonSkip]

upnorthstar, that's a good question. If it was my vehicle, I wouldn't try and push beyond 1000whp with turbo boost just so I know that it will last for a while before having to dive into a motor build. The turbo kit will def be a lot less painful on the motor over the IHI or any blower for that matter. The relief of the crank load alone will help it with more engine stability, less crank flex.

We use only premium race grade parts in our built HC shortblocks, stock sized or stroker. They will take well beyond 1000whp for a long time running. We're going to uncork Doc's Demon/TKM forged HC motor and see if we can get north of 1400 to the tires once all the trans bugs are figured out with the sequential. If I had to guess a PSI number, I'd say well into the mid 20s or higher. I think our HC forged engine/stroker recipes have all the right goodies to withstand a ton of beating/power.

 

[upnorthstar]

Can't wait to see this... that 6870 turbo is impressive... will they be located where the cats are now? Lol I can only picture some big red open bov's hissing like a mad cat from the heat extractors...

 

[J Schiz]

upnorthstar I think our HC forged engine/stroker recipes have all the right goodies to withstand a ton of beating/power.

for damn mf-in shur my pointx2

 

[DemonSkip]

Can't wait to see this... that 6870 turbo is impressive... will they be located where the cats are now? Lol I can only picture some big red open bov's hissing like a mad cat from the heat extractors...

The Precision Gen2 6870 is a monster in a tiny frame! Our base kit will start with twin 62s most likely with the option to upgrade to 64s, 67s, 68s etc. They will be in a mid mount orientation. It will have a pretty intricate oiling system with it to promote turbo longevity for a long time running as well.

for damn mf-in shur my pointx2

Not sure what you mean here but we build them to be as strong as they can be for the type abuse and power you guys intend on putting them through. With a bit of overkill added to the recipe of course.

 

[SRTFighter]

What I would please like to know is how do you convert a supercharger based car that uses not one but 4 MAP + temperature sensors and a MAF system over to twin turbos? In your drawings for the IM I see bungs/mounting points for the MATs so I presume you intend to still run them. If that is the case, how do you adapt the stock sensors to read above 18 PSI?

 

[DemonSkip]

What I would please like to know is how do you convert a supercharger based car that uses not one but 4 MAP + temperature sensors and a MAF system over to twin turbos? In your drawings for the IM I see bungs/mounting points for the MATs so I presume you intend to still run them. If that is the case, how do you adapt the stock sensors to read above 18 PSI?

Our kit will incorporate all the MAPs as well as a MAF sensor in the charge pipe pre-throttle body, they just won't be stock but stock style. We're actually testing out some custom 3bar TMaps now for stock blower applications running higher boost. They are a plug and play type sensor and are direct fit. These will also transfer over to our custom intake manifold design as we tried to make our manifold as modular as we can make it to work with the factory sensors.

Demon Performance 3bar TMAPs in testing :)

 

[LaserDoc]

After installing the 3 bar I was able to beat all Z06 corvettes in the 1/4 and road course racing.

 

[DemonSkip]

After installing the 3 bar I was able to beat all Z06 corvettes in the 1/4 and road course racing.

Haha!

I think we're be leaving a lot of them in the dust when we're through with yours however!

 

[PCP2016]

I dont think that most have read the part that you want to keep the inter coolers in your new manifold. Another reason why the hellcat is a better base platform for this then the scat. Plus the wideband closed loop at wot and pressure drop readings across the inter coolers along with temp drop readings with baro correction capabilities and maf enrichment. The hellcat computer alone makes it a better candidate then the scat pack hands down. It will do everything but fondle your boys and well it leaves that to the g forces applied. The hellcat computers alone leave the doors wide open in a sense. The only issue I could ever see is waste gate control that is tied into the bypass valve and that is an easy fix. I say easy but the concept is sound with a bypass valve voltage monitor piggy back driver for boost control or have it drive the boost control directly.

 

[El Gato Diablo]

Any updates on the turbo system?

 

[Jefe]

What about compound boost?

 

[DemonSkip]

Any updates on the turbo system?

I'll post some teasers on the manifold design sometime next week. You already have the itch huh Billy? I guess Justino down at Sticky's put the bug in your ear! Him and the crew are great, you're in good hands there.

What about compound boost?

Compound would be cool, but the problem with the cat is space. Our kit is designed in such a way that you don't have to butcher your car up to fit. We're making it as plug and play as possible without the need to relocate, remove, modify anything. Basic things here and there will need to be done but nothing too crazy. Compounds work great on diesels but they have a lot more real estate to work with.

The base kit will start with bb 62s, they are spool monsters in a twin setup and will make for a great 1200+ whp cat build. The holy grail in the small frame will be the bb G2 6870s. They are just plain wild. We're running them on LaserDoc's cat shortly.

 

[El Gato Diablo]

Lol yeah

I swung by for a buddy's car being tuned and happened to get mine on the rollers. Not too impressed with factory numbers. I think I might need the lowest hp banner. lol